Kevin Thorn On Vince McMahon Yelling At Him, WWE’s Wellness Policy, Royalty Checks Dropping, TNA

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Updated: September 20, 2016

I recently interviewed former WWE star Kevin Fertig, who wrestled as Kevin Thorn and Mordecai. In the second and final part of the interview below, Thorn discussed his second WWE departure, Vince yelling at him for looking like The Undertaker after being told to, if he had talks with WWE since leaving, TNA, WWE Wellness Policy violations, how often he was tested, Buff Bagwell’s lawsuit against WWE, how much his royalties went down after the WWE Network launched, why former stars aren’t returning to the company and more.

Click here for part one of the interview, where Thorn discussed getting into the business, signing with WWE, the bar fight that led to his first WWE departure, a nixed Vince McMahon angle working with CM Punk, speaking to Donald Trump at WrestleMania and more.

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Yeah. So what led to your departure during that second run?

“Man, it was just a difference of a lot of opinions. I was supposed to get in the hunt and wrestle Taker again. I had hip surgery six [or] seven months beforehand and they weren’t doing anything with me. It went from me being a vampire guy. One day Vince goes, ‘why are you dressing like Taker?’ I went, ‘because you told me to. You guys wanted me to wrestle Taker. That’s what Dusty is telling me. I don’t know. I don’t know what you want me to tell you.’ [Vince said] ‘you’re trying to copy him’. I’m like, ‘no, I’m really not because you’re the one who told me to go all black, remember? I had red streaks in my hair and a little red tie. I was really trying to kind of look a little different. All of a sudden, you’re tell me that I’m trying to copy him because you told me to lose the red streaks and lose the red tie? You’re telling me this and this.’ And then, they told me to cut my hair and do everything. And then, they didn’t know how to write for me. And I’m like, ‘okay, why the f–k do we do this?’ And then, Vince goes, ‘why’d you cut your hair?’ And I went, that’s why I was like, ‘alright’ and then, they were kind of lost with what they wanted to do with me.

“And I tore my labrum in my hip. I’d been working for months, and months, and months with just excruciating pain in the hip. And I was finally like, ‘f–k it. I’m getting my hip fixed. They’re not doing anything with me. I’m going home. I’m wasting money every time they bring me. I’m just going to get it fixed.’ I went and got it fixed and, like, as soon as I’m leaving the hospital doped up on Percocet on the way home, barely feeling my existence, [and] Johnny calls, ‘hey, I just want to see how you’re feeling.’ [Fertig replied] ‘I’m great.’ [Laurinaitis said] ‘I have an idea for you. How soon can you be back?’ [Fertig responded] ‘well, Johnny, the doctor said six to eight months.’ [Laurinaitis asked] ‘you can’t make it back any sooner?’ [Fertig said] ‘yeah, I guess I can if you’ve actually got something for me.’ [Laurinaitis said] ‘yeah, start growing your hair long again’ and all he talked about was doing the exact same thing I was doing before I cut my hair and I was like, ‘you’ve lost your f–king minds’ because Freddie Prinze came in, had all kinds of killer ideas for a vampire character and all this other stuff and it was a go. I mean, so I busted my ass. I went to physical therapy every day for six weeks. The doctor wouldn’t release me until I could run a mile at a speed of seven and run 50 flights of stairs and I went, ‘okay’. And at the end of the six weeks, I did it. And he’s like, ‘this is like nothing I’ve ever seen.’ I’m like, ‘well, I’ve got to get back to work’.

“And I get back to work thinking I’m going to go up there and start and then I went down to Tampa for two weeks. I did these killer interviews or vignette ideas with Dusty. The next thing I know, the next week, there’s a kid Van something, I forget his name, in England, that just did my entire vignette, outside of whatever, talking about The Undertaker and everything else, and I just went, ‘you’ve got to be s–tting me’. So that time, it was in Pittsburgh and I went to Baltimore, so I drove up to Pittsburgh on my own and got in front of them and they were like, ‘oh, we were going to bring you in, but he’s going to be your mouthpiece’ and I went, ‘okay’. And then, the next night in Baltimore, Taker grabbed me and basically told me that something happened and whatever else, ‘you’re going to be squashed and they want you to go down to Tampa for a while’. And that’s when I went, ‘you know what? f–k this.’ I didn’t kill myself for six weeks to get back to just be thrown to the wayside. That’s basically when I went, I told Johnny, ‘maybe it’s best if I go away for awhile’. And it took him a couple of weeks to give me my release. Finally, they gave it to me and here I am. Should I have done that? No. Did my ego get in the way? Yeah, but it’s typical WWE. I love them to death. It is one of the greatest companies in the world to work for, but sometimes it’s so confusing that your emotions get in the way and mine definitely did.”

Have you talked to them at all since you left or just kind of left it where it was?

“A little bit. I was always favorable with the agents. I was always favorable with everybody. I really don’t know them too much. I’m frustrated sometimes. But, yeah, here and there. Nothing that I’m going to come back in this moment in time. My hips, that six weeks of me doing what did didn’t do anything for my hip. I probably screwed myself worse by doing that than letting it heal. And I have issues sometimes with my hip. Could I do a full-time schedule? Man, I don’t know. I’d love to, but also, too, man, I was blessed by leaving when I did because my son’s nine. I’ve been gone eight years. I have been there every day for so much. And then, my daughter’s five now. I’ve been a stay-at-home dad and I’ve loved every minute of it. I haven’t missed a thing. I get them off the bus, I put them on the bus, I’ve made some good investment choices in life, my wife and I just opened up a Farmers Insurance agency, so hey, if anybody out there needs insurance and they live in Indiana, call me. But, I look back and you always look back with some sort of regret and, honest to God, I have none. I’d much rather have a family that’s together and kids that I love, …

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